Looking for information Ames M1840 saber

wdjensen123

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Hi there,

I am looking for any information about this saber I just got. Its an M1840 Ames Cavalry Saber dated 1846. NP Ames / Cabotville / 1846. US / NWP. Pommel marks NWP and another may be WAT.

Strange thing is that although it is not engraved on the hilt or blade like what I think they did to officer';s swords on special order, the hilt has traces of gold plating (conductive with voltmeter, not attacked by sulpher dioxide), and nickel plating that is peppered with black oxidized steel dots. (Nickel plating process was patented 1840).

Was this something special that was common by Ames, or perhaps done later. It has a name engraved on it "Jas Conway" for James Conway.

Were there 2000 or 2400 of 1846 dated sabers made?

It appears to have been made for the Mexican War, but the verbal story is, its from Virginia Confederate "Guards", whatever that is. Is it a unit with a roster? Might it be identified? How would I do it? I may sell it later.

The brass wire wrapping the handle is missing with traces left, and the grip wood is split lengthwise. Its very dirty and not shined up, I'm leaving it the way I found it. Leather grip and washer seem pretty good. 2 dents in lower scabbard, but sword goes in and out nicely.

Sincerely,
Bill Jensen

wdjensen123 at hotmail dot com
Washington State
 
OK, here is a simpler question: How many 1846 dated Ames M1840 heavy cavalry sabers were made?

Sincerely,
Bill Jensen
 
information on Ames 1840 sword

Hi Bill
I realize this is an extremely old post and may no longer be valid but I haven't been around for quite some time and just though in case you are still looking for info Imight help a bit.

1st
NP Ames Cabotville is the correct stamp for a sword produced in 1846. The name of the town was changed to Chicopee in 1848. and the Stamps were changed to just AMES Mfg. co. Chicopee Mass
The Cabotville stamp however has been found on swords as late as 1850 and it is believed that the reason is that they simply let the dies wear out before eventually replacing them.

The initials NWP on the blade stands for Nahum W. Patch, he was an inspector from 1831-1849
The initials WAT on the pomel stand for William Anderson Thornton (Capt.) he was an inspector from 1840 to 1861. The markings all seem to be "date correct" for a sword produced in 1846

I am not sure of the exact number produced in 1846 but it can be found with a little research. AS for the plating? Who knows? I have heard stories of swords that were later plated and given as presentation pieces but I don't know if it was ever done in the initial production. Again I would research it to make sure what the plating is and why it may have been done.
Claude
 
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